View Full Version : Yup, another gun question from a noo-b
Topher
07-28-2009, 10:05 AM
So, I am working with the Auto Air stuff. Mostly because I like the fact that it's water based so the smell is down and the clean up is easy. However, I am looking to spray different sized flakes, pearls, and so on. I am using the Dura Block mini gun with a 1.2 tip on it. So far, I like it although I don't really know what the differences are or what I'm missing by using a cheap gun. So, now the questions start. I am wondering why no one makes a mini gun with larger needle/nozzle sizes? Like up to a 2 or a 2.2. The other question is how good are the guns with the large range of sizes? TCP has one with tips that go up to a 2.5. Does this affect the packing if it is constantly being switched out? Thanks for reading this and I'm looking forward to any help I receive.
ARTSPRAY
07-28-2009, 08:03 PM
sata minijets go up to 1.4 ,the reason they dont go very high is that mini guns are used for local repairs ie touch ups also the airflow in mini gun would not cope with large amounts or high viscosity fluids which basicly would not be used in anything other than a full size gun made for large aplications ,if there was a legitimate demand for larger set ups im sure manufacturers would make them
as for your dura block gun i hear they are pretty good guns so i dont think you are missing out by much
Paul
Topher
07-29-2009, 02:05 AM
I understand that. And trust me, I'm not arguing. However, for the hobby guy (like myself) that is just shooting motorcycle tins and such, a mini gun with a large array of tip sizes would be a beautiful thing. Am I alone here?
KewlKustomPaint
07-29-2009, 03:36 AM
I have a sata Minijet 4 with 1.0 and everyone says why did you get such a small setup why not the 1.2 or 1.4 and it's because i got it new/used and alot cheaper then brandnew.
I however don't see it being a problem as i can shoot base and clear and it atomizies both very well and metallic control is great and the clear flows out like glass so even if you were to go with the bigger sizes i don't think you need a bigger then 1.4
the 1.7 and up guns are really designed for shotting those thicker 2K primers and why you would need the bigger nozzle to get it to spray even and atomize correctly so it goes on smooth ,not rough and textured or peel so to speak.For paint/base or single stage color and the clearcoats 1.4 is plenty sufficient and I have a 1.7 Harbor Frieght gun that cost me $30 for shooting primer and it sprays as good as the name brands so there is no need for an expensive primer gun when econo guns will do the job just as well.It's a tool and the user really makes the difference on how good or bad it opereates.
I good painter can take the cheapest gun and paint like nobody's bizness and a crappy painter with the most expensive high end gun can make a paintjob look like grapefruit peel or sandpaper or at worst even semigloss satin when it's supposed to be high gloss.
It's not always the equipment price that makes it good and nothing beats experience.
Topher
07-29-2009, 02:06 PM
what about shooting flake? like, bass boat type stuff. I think that on a hobby level, there would be some demand for something like a mini that has a large enough opening to shoot that stuff. again, I'm a rank amateur here, so what the hell do I know!?!? thanks for the input so far. Christopher
Topher
07-29-2009, 07:16 PM
yeah. i've seen that. i just came across the iwata lph-100 that goes from a 1.2 to a 2.2. it is a ''compact'' gun which is, i guess a mid-size. not as small as a compact, not as large as a full size. anyone have any experience with this gun? it may be what i am looking for, however it's pretty pricey for a hobby-ist.
ARTSPRAY
07-29-2009, 08:06 PM
if the gun your on about is a Devilbiss compact then they arent cheap and arent realy a touch up gun but a lightwieght full size gun the silver model is the conventional version the blue is the transtech ,the only real difference is the baffle set up so they can be easily converted to trans tech
for a cheap mid sized gun take a look at airgunza now owned by iwata ,they do come with larger set ups
Paul
Topher
07-30-2009, 11:06 AM
No, the gun is an Iwata. It ain't cheap. I've seen it from 309 to 399. It's interesting to me as it looks a little smaller than a full sized gun. I am painting smaller stuff and working in a pretty tight space, so the small gun is appealing to me. Again, it's the LPH-100. Has anyone used this? Thanks
ARTSPRAY
07-30-2009, 06:50 PM
sounds like either a w200 or 300 ,it should say on the gun
Topher
07-31-2009, 11:32 PM
It is the LPH-100. Anyway, has anyone tried the CATechnologies guns? I like the fact that they are made in the US. However, if they are lame, that won't work. I'm planning for Christmas already. Thanks.
dbishop
08-01-2009, 03:25 PM
I have the LPH-101, it is the new model. Works good, Never tried the cat guns.
Topher
08-02-2009, 01:19 AM
What size tips are available for that gun? Do you know the approximate cost per set? Thanks if you can help.
dbishop
08-03-2009, 08:40 PM
The LPH101 LVG nozzle size are, 1.2,1.4,1.6 and 1.8. approximate cost per set ( nozzle and needle) 101.00 from coast
I've got the LPH-101 [updated from the LPH100]. Works great. I use it more than all my other guns combined. It can atomize a very small fine mist, nearly air-brush territory, and yet can pour on clear on a decent size small item fast, glass, and nice. I've got the 1.2 tip, I would not see a need for larger unless you were going for bigger items, or very thick paint/primer.
Not large enough to paint an entire car.
el_jefe
08-06-2009, 01:16 PM
I have the LPH 100 and love it. Havent tried flake thru it, but it sprays oh so nice.
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