engine turn

[Krazy kustumz]

I've seen alot of engine turn effects with the mirra chrome or ghost chrome, how is that done?

[Craig Fraser]

I like to do the faux machine turning over a single stage black, or clearcoated black surface. Take a die grinder, but use a scotchbrite pad on it. us this to create the spun maching turning in the black surface. When done, you spray the ghost chrome, and it looks just like a 6061 T-6 aluminum spun surface. Good luck.

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Fraser

[Krazy kustumz]

Thanks Craig!
Hey any idea when your coming back to Kansas City Missouri?

[Craig Fraser]

I don't currently have anything scheduled for Kansas City, but that can always change. I recommend talking to your local jobber about putting together another workshop, or clinic. You can also contact www.asetusa.com (http://www.asetusa.com) They schedule a number of my travelling workshops. Keep an eye on my events calendar. Ill talk to you soon.

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Fraser

[Deborah Mahan]

An another tip on the machine turning effect, make sure you overlap the spin pattern, it will give it a more authentic look.
Deborah

[Ryszard Janusz]

You have to get a feel for how hard to press the die grinder on to the surface. You agree? When i first tried it i was going throught the base on some spots. Then i was doing it too light and when i sprayed the ghost chrome over top of it it didnt show the engine turn efeect really well. Maybe i was spraying the ghost chrome on too heavy too?

[Craig Fraser]

Try gluing two of the scotchbrites together stacked on the rollock pad. This will give you a little more cushion, and help prevent you from burning through. I have used a triple stack to enable the pad to flex around a curved surface like a tank, or helmet to prevent edge burning. Give it a try.

Good luck.

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Fraser

[Ryszard Janusz]

Awesome i will give that a try!!!

[Krazy kustumz]

anyone trit with mirra chrome?

[Krazy kustumz]

I gues thats a "no" I'll try it tonight and see what happens

[Burton]

Ops... yeah I've tried it. What are you going to try? That stuff is really touchy when it comes to the scratches under it.... so dont use 600p for prepping the surface.

[Jlkohel911]

Craig-
In reading this thread, I noticed you talking about your schedule.
Here in WI we dont get a chance to see any of you that often if at all.. one think you might want to check into is doing something in Appleton, WI (The Fox Cities are) Airbrushing, car effects, all of that is HUGE here, but hardley anyone does it, and noon ever comes here. Reason I say Appleton, and not Green Bay is because GB is only 45 min away, and there is hundreds of surrounding areas SW of GB that people would FLOCK from, I promise. Just give it a think :tup:

[Krazy kustumz]

welp, it looks like poo...but on a good note I did just come up with a chrome/black color shift, its stayin!

[Craig Fraser]

It does work with Mirrachrome, you just have to be careful, since the mirrachrome is more sensitive to touch, and masking then ghost chrome. Plus the mirrachrome is more expensive, so it is more profitable to do it with the Ghost Chrome, or the new House of Kolor Kosmic Khrome when it hits the market. Good luck, and just becarefull about touching it, or marking it. The fingerprints will not show up until you clear it. That is the part that sucks,...heheheh.

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Fraser

[Krazy kustumz]

I had some mirra chrome laying around from another job, I shoulda practiced first but didnt have enough to do so. oh well, live and learn, I still have something cool to give my customer. it was only a small stripe on a helmet so not that big of deal anyway.

[Jlkohel911]

do you guys have any pics of this "engine turn"?

[airbrsher]

OK, got a couple questions about the machine turned look...
Start with a base black...PPG Urethane OK? How long does it need to sit before continuing? Then spray misty layers of ghost chrome...How much base color tint should show? How long should that cure before clearing? Is it OK to degrease in between? Can a urethane clear be used with a good out-come? Can an intercoat clear be used for added protection till the item can be cleared?
Been experimenting and I've found out so far not to use Laquer spray clear over the ghost chrome because it only seams to reactivate the metalic and seams to blur the whole effect and almost completely hide the swirls.
Help would be greatly appreciated. Thanks
Ranae
www.charrisdesigns.com

[Craig Fraser]

Any black will work actually. I just recommend that you clearcoat it, or use a singlestage black. Reason being the basecoat black, does not hold the small grooves created with the scotchbrite swirling. Plus it reactivates with the ghost chrome. You don't need to wait at all. once the clear, or single stage is cured, you can go at it. Either spin the surface first, or sand with 600, then spin. Gives a different look, try a test panel to see for yourself. After doing your spins, wipe down with precleaner, to get the skuffed paint out of the grooves. wipe clean, then spray the Ghost Chrome lightly on first coat. Then follow by 2 more light coats, giving about 10-15 minutes between coats. Let sit a good half hour, then spray with a light coat of SG-100. You need to do this before you unmask any surrounding areas. Otherwise, when you wipe down later, you may rub some of the aluminum into the other areas. This pigment is so fine, that you will never get it out of the surface. To give you an example of how fine. Ghost chrome will actually settle into the pores in a polished and buffed clear surface. (How do you think that Mirrachrome sticks to polished clear!? Heheheh. ) Good luck, hope this helps you out. Since somebody asked for a pic, I included one from a workshop I taught earlier this year.

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Fraser

[bassplayer60]

Try gluing two of the scotchbrites together stacked on the rollock pad. This will give you a little more cushion, and help prevent you from burning through. I have used a triple stack to enable the pad to flex around a curved surface like a tank, or helmet to prevent edge burning. Give it a try.

Good luck.

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Fraser

Craig...what kind of glue do you use? I went and bought some roloc pads, but they already have some stiff hard surface on it?? Could you please
describe how it's done?

Thanks

Vern
:o

[Craig Fraser]

Lately I have been using a hot glue gun to adhere the scotchbrites onto the rollock pads. By the way, concerning doing a workshop in the Wisconsin area, I would be more then happy to accomodate, but I don't decide the venues. Whether it goes through House of Kolor, Iwata, or an independent distributor, it has to be arranged, and organized by the local jobbers first. Give them a holler, and see what they think. Try the ones that sell Iwata products, or House of Kolor. They can contact ASET at www.asetusa.com (http://www.asetusa.com) Aset is the company that organizes, sponsors, and supplies all of the travelling workshops that Me, Deb, and a whole mess of artists do around the country. Good luck, look forward to visiting you guys again over in Wisconsin. Forgot to mention, that I have done a workshop in Greenbay in the past, was just a few years back.

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Fraser